Search the Scriptures Daily Program #1106c Transcript follows: predestine to eternal torment people before they are even born and they’re not even given a chance to believe because you’ve fixed it so they can’t believe? I don’t believe so. So, that’s the main problem, Tom. So, I can’t read, when I come to these difficult passages like Ephesians Chapter 1: He works all things according to the council of his will. It doesn’t say, He works all things according to his will. To the council of his will, and in the council of his will he has given men the power of choice. And when I come to a passage that seems like he is choosing some for heaven and some for hell, I’ve got to interpret it with the rest of the Bible, and with God’s character---God is love! Tom: Dave, I said I wasn’t going to get involved, but the latter part of this question where the person says, I tend to agree with them on the 5th point, perseverance of the saints related to eternal security. I don’t think perseverance of the saints has anything to do with eternal security. It’s all based on demonstrating that you are one of the elect. Dave: Tom, the very words, perseverance of the saints, tells you, it’s not perseverance of God, it’s not held by him, perseverance of the saints. And we quote in that book, What Love is This? many Calvinists who feel they have lost their salvation or they have lost their hope because they haven’t been living a good enough life. Gary: If you have a question for Dave and Tom to respond to in a future Contending for the Faith, stay with us, we’ll have our contact information at the end of the program. You are listening to Search the Scriptures Daily, a radio ministry of The Berean Call. Now, our final segment.