Gary:
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CONTENDING FOR THE FAITH
In this regular feature Dave and Tom respond to questions from listeners and readers of The Berean Call. Here is this week’s question: Dear Dave and Tom: “I went to your website and now I am thoroughly confused. I thought you believed in a pre-trib rapture, but I found you quoting Revelation 9:14, and stating that it refers to rapturing the church out of the Great Tribulation. Then I was shocked to learn that you don’t believe in eternal security. I know I used to have a tract by you called: Once Saved, Always Saved. I admit I haven’t followed your ministry for a while but it’s hard to believe that you’ve changed your view on those doctrines.
Tom:
Dave, this letter is representative of even some calls that we’ve gotten. You see, folks, if you, I hate to even give this guy the attention, but I think we need to address it. If you type in the wrong address for The Berean Call, if you type in thebereancall.com or bereancall.com, you’ll go to another web site. It seems that this individual has taken an address that is close to ours so that he can take advantage of those who want to go to our website. And the confusion is just rampant. I went to the guy’s website, there are people who write to him who use their email . .
Dave:
Well, Tom, let’s clarify what our address is: thebereancall.org. This man has gotten bereancall.org as one of his webs, so if you forget to put “The” in, and you just type Berean Call, Tom . .
Tom:
And then you end up with a website that’s called Search The Scriptures.
Dave:
Right.
Tom:
Now, I’ve seen his response to our concern about this and he says, Oh, he loves our ministry and he’s just trying to catch the crumbs that fall from our table, you know, that kind of thing. Now, Dave, seriously, this is deceit and he’s trying to deceive people by using something close to our website. And, then he’d say, well, wait a minute, is it just us that he’s taking advantage of really? No, if you typed in chicktracts.com, you’d go to his website. If you type in psychoheresy, Martin and Deidre Bobgan’s ministry Psychoheresy Awareness, if you typed in psychoheresy.com you’d go to his website. And I find on his website people are actually writing to him thinking they’re writing to us. He’s answering questions, or people on his website are answering questions, thinking that you’re responding to.
Dave:
Now, Tom, I spent two hours last Saturday on the phone with someone, I won’t mention the name, but this is a speaker traveling around and called me and said, “Don’t you believe in a pre-trib Rapture anymore? What is this, do you believe that the Rapture occurs at the seventh trump?” or ”I am so confused.” And I said, “Well, where have you been?” “Well, bereancall.org.” I didn’t catch it at that moment. bereancall.org. Well, that seemed to me that should be the right one. I said, “I can’t believe it. You found this on our website?” “Yes, I found it on your website.” Wow. And then, I finally realized, not thebereancall.org, but bereancall.org. And I went to it and we discussed this problem, why this person was absolutely turned inside out. Almost lost their faith. So confused. Tom, this is wicked. This man is deliberately trying to grab people who think they’re coming to our website and their getting his.
Tom:
Dave, not just our website, but as I mentioned, the Bobgan’s website, Jack Chick’s website, etc. And the problem here is, we have differences, I mean, aside from the deceit, we have doctrinal differences with this guy and, as you say, it’s confusing a lot of people. Now, it’s..
Dave:
Tom, very serious doctrinal differences.
Tom:
Not only that, but you look at the correspondence, their forum, the letters that they get. There are references to you and they eliminate your last name. It’s called Dave Golly. Every time you get on the forum and refer to you, Dave Hunt, it ends up being Dave Golly. For example, Dave Golly wrote a book called A Woman Rides The Beast.
Dave:
No.
Tom:
Yeah.
Dave:
You’re kidding.
Tom:
No. So, I don’t know what the guy’s up to, but he’s not Christian.
Dave:
How can he do that?
Tom:
He professes to have integrity. There’s no integrity there and basically he’s using deceit to draw people in, which is, let him take that to the Lord. He said, well, he prayed about it originally, whether to use addresses that were close to ours and this is what the Lord had him do.
Dave:
I don’t know what Lord he knows, because that’s not what the Lord would have anyone do.
Tom:
Dave, you just talked to somebody recently that was confused about this.
I went to the website and this lady writes, “Hi! I watched the video at Twin City Fellowship in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where Shimon, referring to Shimon Erem, talked about Israel. The sound system wasn’t great so I missed some of his points. Is that available to purchase?” Now, honestly, she’s referring to In Defense of Israel, the DVD that we just produced and she wants to know if she can purchase it. So, she’s at the wrong place to purchase one of our videos, DVD’s. And, somebody writes back to her and says, “I think you’re probably talking about In Defense of Israel” and then he recommends how she can go about ordering it, not telling her that she’s at the wrong website. And, again, we have deception, deceit, being furthered here. A pastor writes, “Gee, I was not aware that Dave Hunt was actually Dave Golly.” Because if you go through the forum, every time there’s a reference to Dave Hunt, they change the last name to Golly. Now, what’s that all about except utter deceit, supposedly in the name of the Lord. Dave, I don’t know where this guy’s coming from but he claims to be a Christian, professes to be doing what’s right in the Lord, but obviously he’s deceiving people.
Gary:
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